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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://transcendbulimia.com/archives/61/comment-page-1#comment-18948</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 15:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Eileen, Thank you for visiting my blog and your kind words!  I believe we all find one another and the information we need at just the right time. I would be interested to hear how things go for you on the Body Ecology Diet.

Keep in mind that in the beginning, you may be more hungry than usual on BED.  It&#039;s normal.  You&#039;ll find that you can eat more food because your digestion is starting to work better. This is not the kind of eating that we once believed causes weight gain -- even though you may experience some bloating in the first 2 weeks or so. It&#039;s typical for the bloating to be there in recovery, then go away.  If your kidneys are out of whack, you may experience  bloating periodically. Trust your body.  It will support you as you support it.

It&#039;s great that you are taking steps toward your healing -- and that you feel hopeful.  Hope is like optimism, which can lead to positive thinking.  The more positive you are, the more law of attraction works in your favor. Being in harmony with your body and in harmony with all things tends to show up on this journey.  I&#039;m sending you light and love as you continue to explore what works best for you!

With love,
Heather</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eileen, Thank you for visiting my blog and your kind words!  I believe we all find one another and the information we need at just the right time. I would be interested to hear how things go for you on the Body Ecology Diet.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that in the beginning, you may be more hungry than usual on BED.  It&#8217;s normal.  You&#8217;ll find that you can eat more food because your digestion is starting to work better. This is not the kind of eating that we once believed causes weight gain &#8212; even though you may experience some bloating in the first 2 weeks or so. It&#8217;s typical for the bloating to be there in recovery, then go away.  If your kidneys are out of whack, you may experience  bloating periodically. Trust your body.  It will support you as you support it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s great that you are taking steps toward your healing &#8212; and that you feel hopeful.  Hope is like optimism, which can lead to positive thinking.  The more positive you are, the more law of attraction works in your favor. Being in harmony with your body and in harmony with all things tends to show up on this journey.  I&#8217;m sending you light and love as you continue to explore what works best for you!</p>
<p>With love,<br />
Heather</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 06:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heather, Where did you come from?  Thanks so much for creating this discussion.
Wow, I bought Donna&#039;s book a few weeks ago and have been implementing some of the suggestions.  Felt great 2 out of 3 meals today.  I guess I still have to go through the pain of finding what works and what doesn&#039;t and be willing to let them go.  
Searching through the BED website I found your site and am almost speechless right now as I am reading my story in all the comments.
I too have been trying to find a food plan that is healthy and nourishing for me.  The OA plan worked for a time but is no longer.  I find peace with weighing and measuring too.  Because of the anorexia piece to my Bulimia and ED I am having a hard time eating enough  on the BED.  Which eventually sets me up starving, leads to overeat or take innappropiate foods, making the whole cycle worse.
I am feeling hopeful there may be help as others also struggle with these issues.
Would love to keep in contact and support each other.
Blessings, Eileen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heather, Where did you come from?  Thanks so much for creating this discussion.<br />
Wow, I bought Donna&#8217;s book a few weeks ago and have been implementing some of the suggestions.  Felt great 2 out of 3 meals today.  I guess I still have to go through the pain of finding what works and what doesn&#8217;t and be willing to let them go.<br />
Searching through the BED website I found your site and am almost speechless right now as I am reading my story in all the comments.<br />
I too have been trying to find a food plan that is healthy and nourishing for me.  The OA plan worked for a time but is no longer.  I find peace with weighing and measuring too.  Because of the anorexia piece to my Bulimia and ED I am having a hard time eating enough  on the BED.  Which eventually sets me up starving, leads to overeat or take innappropiate foods, making the whole cycle worse.<br />
I am feeling hopeful there may be help as others also struggle with these issues.<br />
Would love to keep in contact and support each other.<br />
Blessings, Eileen</p>
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		<title>By: heather</title>
		<link>http://transcendbulimia.com/archives/61/comment-page-1#comment-1303</link>
		<dc:creator>heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 03:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heather, 
thank you so much for responding to my message. i will definitely look for the book you mentioned on amazon. 
i am also seriously considering scheduling a consultation with donna. i must save some money first. i have spent so muc money trying to solve this problem and have yet to find a solution (other than the medication for the depression). still, the binging continues on and off. anyway, i am reluctant to spnd more money, but who knows? this could be it. i am still so hopeful, despite all that hasn&#039;t worked.
thanks again for responding. i think it would be wise to start the BED first and then hopefully ween off medication, rather than going off medication  first, as i&#039;ve done in the past without success.
are you still feeling well? could there actually be an answer to my binge eating?
take good care.
much love, 
heather</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heather,<br />
thank you so much for responding to my message. i will definitely look for the book you mentioned on amazon.<br />
i am also seriously considering scheduling a consultation with donna. i must save some money first. i have spent so muc money trying to solve this problem and have yet to find a solution (other than the medication for the depression). still, the binging continues on and off. anyway, i am reluctant to spnd more money, but who knows? this could be it. i am still so hopeful, despite all that hasn&#8217;t worked.<br />
thanks again for responding. i think it would be wise to start the BED first and then hopefully ween off medication, rather than going off medication  first, as i&#8217;ve done in the past without success.<br />
are you still feeling well? could there actually be an answer to my binge eating?<br />
take good care.<br />
much love,<br />
heather</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://transcendbulimia.com/archives/61/comment-page-1#comment-952</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Heather, You ask a really good question.  I&#039;ll have to ask Donna about taking people off anti-depressants in her experience.  I know she&#039;s worked with people on the Body Ecology Diet who&#039;ve gone off all kinds of medication successfully -- and since she works to help women in pregnancy, she has a protocol for avoiding post-partum depression.   I&#039;m pretty certain Donna would be able to create a protocol for depression medication as well.  For example, she knows the work of Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride, MD -- who has done this before.

Dr. Campbell-McBride wrote a great book called Gut &amp; Psychology Syndrome: Natural Treatment for Dyspraxia, Autism, ADD, ADHD, Depression &amp; Schizophrenia.  In this book, she talks about depression, bipolar and schizophrenia having a great deal of overlap.  She says that patients can successfully be brought off medication -- BUT, it&#039;s important to build them up nutritionally first and slowly, with supervision, bring them off medication.  

Her findings show the studies into these patients -- all have some nutritional deficiency, especially B vitamains (B3, B6, B12, B1and folic acid) and vitamin C, along with many important minerals (Magensium, zinc, magnese, etc.).  

Her book has some really compelling information and she also suggests a diet to follow.  It is very similar to Body Ecology Diet, with some differences.  Consider picking it up -- it&#039;s not that easy to get, but you may be able to find it on Amazon.  Donna also sells it on her website: bodyecology.com.

I wish you all the best in your journey and I acknowledge you for understanding that the medication you are taking is helping you...while at the same time, seeking new knowledge.  The path you are taking is simultaneously self-caring and empowering -- it&#039;s beautiful!

With love,
Heather</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Heather, You ask a really good question.  I&#8217;ll have to ask Donna about taking people off anti-depressants in her experience.  I know she&#8217;s worked with people on the Body Ecology Diet who&#8217;ve gone off all kinds of medication successfully &#8212; and since she works to help women in pregnancy, she has a protocol for avoiding post-partum depression.   I&#8217;m pretty certain Donna would be able to create a protocol for depression medication as well.  For example, she knows the work of Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride, MD &#8212; who has done this before.</p>
<p>Dr. Campbell-McBride wrote a great book called Gut &amp; Psychology Syndrome: Natural Treatment for Dyspraxia, Autism, ADD, ADHD, Depression &amp; Schizophrenia.  In this book, she talks about depression, bipolar and schizophrenia having a great deal of overlap.  She says that patients can successfully be brought off medication &#8212; BUT, it&#8217;s important to build them up nutritionally first and slowly, with supervision, bring them off medication.  </p>
<p>Her findings show the studies into these patients &#8212; all have some nutritional deficiency, especially B vitamains (B3, B6, B12, B1and folic acid) and vitamin C, along with many important minerals (Magensium, zinc, magnese, etc.).  </p>
<p>Her book has some really compelling information and she also suggests a diet to follow.  It is very similar to Body Ecology Diet, with some differences.  Consider picking it up &#8212; it&#8217;s not that easy to get, but you may be able to find it on Amazon.  Donna also sells it on her website: bodyecology.com.</p>
<p>I wish you all the best in your journey and I acknowledge you for understanding that the medication you are taking is helping you&#8230;while at the same time, seeking new knowledge.  The path you are taking is simultaneously self-caring and empowering &#8212; it&#8217;s beautiful!</p>
<p>With love,<br />
Heather</p>
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		<title>By: heather</title>
		<link>http://transcendbulimia.com/archives/61/comment-page-1#comment-938</link>
		<dc:creator>heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 05:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heather, 
thank you for shariing so much of your experience and for all the words of wisdom. i am wondering if you know anyone or if donna spoke of anyone who has gotten off anti-depressants using the body ecology diet.

i too have a history of severe binging and found relief from that painful pattern following the same food plan that i suspect turtle was following. in a lot of ways it worked for me. the structure, the community, the freedom from obsession with food. however, i was still in major clinical depression and it only got worse. i have taken anti-depressants twice (currently on) and it&#039;s the only thing i&#039;ve found thus far that has helped me to function each day. i  have striven to eat all raw/vegan, but have not been successful.

i have been searching for years for an answer to this depression - diets, network chiropractic, acupuncture, emotional work/journaling, emdr, acupuncture, and on and on.
i would love to get off these drugs, but truthfully, if it is a choice between putting something that i know is toxic into my body/risking shortening my life or having no quality of life, i will choose the drugs. what&#039;s the point of living if i want to die, right? i&#039;m being flip, but i&#039;m also serious.

anyway (wow - this e-mail got long), i am wondering if you&#039;ve heard of anyone who was on anti-depressants and was helped by this diet? i feel the need to qualify - not people who were depressed  - that word means different things to different people - but people who were/are taking medication for depression.

thanks so much. you are an inspiration. i celebrate your recovery and know i will find/ am finding the same.

love, 
heather (also)
oh, i&#039;m also a type o.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heather,<br />
thank you for shariing so much of your experience and for all the words of wisdom. i am wondering if you know anyone or if donna spoke of anyone who has gotten off anti-depressants using the body ecology diet.</p>
<p>i too have a history of severe binging and found relief from that painful pattern following the same food plan that i suspect turtle was following. in a lot of ways it worked for me. the structure, the community, the freedom from obsession with food. however, i was still in major clinical depression and it only got worse. i have taken anti-depressants twice (currently on) and it&#8217;s the only thing i&#8217;ve found thus far that has helped me to function each day. i  have striven to eat all raw/vegan, but have not been successful.</p>
<p>i have been searching for years for an answer to this depression &#8211; diets, network chiropractic, acupuncture, emotional work/journaling, emdr, acupuncture, and on and on.<br />
i would love to get off these drugs, but truthfully, if it is a choice between putting something that i know is toxic into my body/risking shortening my life or having no quality of life, i will choose the drugs. what&#8217;s the point of living if i want to die, right? i&#8217;m being flip, but i&#8217;m also serious.</p>
<p>anyway (wow &#8211; this e-mail got long), i am wondering if you&#8217;ve heard of anyone who was on anti-depressants and was helped by this diet? i feel the need to qualify &#8211; not people who were depressed  &#8211; that word means different things to different people &#8211; but people who were/are taking medication for depression.</p>
<p>thanks so much. you are an inspiration. i celebrate your recovery and know i will find/ am finding the same.</p>
<p>love,<br />
heather (also)<br />
oh, i&#8217;m also a type o.</p>
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		<title>By: turtle</title>
		<link>http://transcendbulimia.com/archives/61/comment-page-1#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>turtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 11:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS ..Heather,
I think that comment you made about most of the people who are in the field of nutrition are
blood type &quot;A&quot;s as that has been an interest since I was a teen, when I became a vegetarian.
I now work in a health food store, which sells supplements.  I love helping people, especially around nutrition.  I am trying to come up with a way to do this on a more lucritive and self supporting way.  I have thought about becoming a colon hydrotherapist, but, not sure that is the
right fit.
Thanks again for all you share here with us.
Turtle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS ..Heather,<br />
I think that comment you made about most of the people who are in the field of nutrition are<br />
blood type &#8220;A&#8221;s as that has been an interest since I was a teen, when I became a vegetarian.<br />
I now work in a health food store, which sells supplements.  I love helping people, especially around nutrition.  I am trying to come up with a way to do this on a more lucritive and self supporting way.  I have thought about becoming a colon hydrotherapist, but, not sure that is the<br />
right fit.<br />
Thanks again for all you share here with us.<br />
Turtle</p>
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		<title>By: turtle</title>
		<link>http://transcendbulimia.com/archives/61/comment-page-1#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>turtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 11:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heather,
You are an angel. Thank you for getting back to me once again.  Yes, I am the very senitive
blood A type,which I know Donna is too.  I do eat cultured veggies.  I have got to get back into
making them.  I used to do it all the time.  I would love to get the notes on vegan and body ecology diet.  This is what I know would work the best for me.  I have not made the coconut
kefir in awhile because I went on this food plan which comes from OA.  I know it doesn&#039;t serve me, but, I have been scared to let go...as I have said to you before.  I also need to have a plan
that is weighed and measured...because at this point, I go nuts with out that structure!
Hope you can help with that.
I also know that healing is not just about the right food, it is but, one tool.  I need to use some
spiritual tools as well.  I am still obsessed with the food part of recovery!
Thanks so much Heather!!!!
Turtle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heather,<br />
You are an angel. Thank you for getting back to me once again.  Yes, I am the very senitive<br />
blood A type,which I know Donna is too.  I do eat cultured veggies.  I have got to get back into<br />
making them.  I used to do it all the time.  I would love to get the notes on vegan and body ecology diet.  This is what I know would work the best for me.  I have not made the coconut<br />
kefir in awhile because I went on this food plan which comes from OA.  I know it doesn&#8217;t serve me, but, I have been scared to let go&#8230;as I have said to you before.  I also need to have a plan<br />
that is weighed and measured&#8230;because at this point, I go nuts with out that structure!<br />
Hope you can help with that.<br />
I also know that healing is not just about the right food, it is but, one tool.  I need to use some<br />
spiritual tools as well.  I am still obsessed with the food part of recovery!<br />
Thanks so much Heather!!!!<br />
Turtle</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://transcendbulimia.com/archives/61/comment-page-1#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 21:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Turtle, I applaud your commitment to following your heart!  Ahhh, a blood type A.  Donna talked a lot about blood type A&#039;s in the certified body ecologist (CBE) training -- which was wonderful, by the way.  

One of the things Donna said is that blood type A is very sensitive in costitution -- and in fact, almost all of the well-known people in the field of nutrition are blood type A!  She suggests calm activities and careers that are lower in stress.  Blood type A is very similar to a type A personality.  And although today&#039;s world has made many people type A personalities, some blood types are designed to handle higher levels of stress than others.  

We also learned ways to build the inner ecosystem, so that you can start digesting better.  Sounds like you can eat fermented veggies, which I highly recommend.  They will rebuild your system with healthy microflora -- which is key to improving digestion and ending an ED.  I&#039;m not sure if you have been eating them yet -- be careful because they cause gas and bloating at first.  If this triggers any ED feelings too much, back off on eating it so much.  Introduce it slowly into your diet.  Also, young coconut keifer is excellent for adding B vitamins (and microflora), which you will need as a vegan.  We talked a lot about vegan diets, so I&#039;ll send you a note about what I learned.

More soon!

With love,
Heather</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Turtle, I applaud your commitment to following your heart!  Ahhh, a blood type A.  Donna talked a lot about blood type A&#8217;s in the certified body ecologist (CBE) training &#8212; which was wonderful, by the way.  </p>
<p>One of the things Donna said is that blood type A is very sensitive in costitution &#8212; and in fact, almost all of the well-known people in the field of nutrition are blood type A!  She suggests calm activities and careers that are lower in stress.  Blood type A is very similar to a type A personality.  And although today&#8217;s world has made many people type A personalities, some blood types are designed to handle higher levels of stress than others.  </p>
<p>We also learned ways to build the inner ecosystem, so that you can start digesting better.  Sounds like you can eat fermented veggies, which I highly recommend.  They will rebuild your system with healthy microflora &#8212; which is key to improving digestion and ending an ED.  I&#8217;m not sure if you have been eating them yet &#8212; be careful because they cause gas and bloating at first.  If this triggers any ED feelings too much, back off on eating it so much.  Introduce it slowly into your diet.  Also, young coconut keifer is excellent for adding B vitamins (and microflora), which you will need as a vegan.  We talked a lot about vegan diets, so I&#8217;ll send you a note about what I learned.</p>
<p>More soon!</p>
<p>With love,<br />
Heather</p>
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		<title>By: turtle</title>
		<link>http://transcendbulimia.com/archives/61/comment-page-1#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>turtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Heather,
I am  most appreciative of your very well thoughtout e-mail and I am looking forward to working with you on this issue of what to eat.  I appreciate your wisdom and self knowledge of what works for you.  I would like to get to that place of trust, faith, and healing.  I would like to heal..
my physical body and my spiritual one...I do not want to be ill or obsessed!
I have tried over and over the free range chicken, organic free range eggs, grass fed beef, 
fish etc and I can not do it.  It pains me too much...not only physically, but, emotionally.  I can not force myself to eat something I really really don&#039;t want to eat.  I have been doing that on and off for the past several years.  Eating raw has felt the most natural to me...but, I don&#039;t have to eat 100 % raw.  I am a blood type A.  I can eat a lot of great cultured veggie mixtures.  I know I have to be willing to make some compromises.
At any rate, again thank you and I hope that you are having an incredible experience with 
Donna Gates.
Namaste
Turtle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Heather,<br />
I am  most appreciative of your very well thoughtout e-mail and I am looking forward to working with you on this issue of what to eat.  I appreciate your wisdom and self knowledge of what works for you.  I would like to get to that place of trust, faith, and healing.  I would like to heal..<br />
my physical body and my spiritual one&#8230;I do not want to be ill or obsessed!<br />
I have tried over and over the free range chicken, organic free range eggs, grass fed beef,<br />
fish etc and I can not do it.  It pains me too much&#8230;not only physically, but, emotionally.  I can not force myself to eat something I really really don&#8217;t want to eat.  I have been doing that on and off for the past several years.  Eating raw has felt the most natural to me&#8230;but, I don&#8217;t have to eat 100 % raw.  I am a blood type A.  I can eat a lot of great cultured veggie mixtures.  I know I have to be willing to make some compromises.<br />
At any rate, again thank you and I hope that you are having an incredible experience with<br />
Donna Gates.<br />
Namaste<br />
Turtle</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://transcendbulimia.com/archives/61/comment-page-1#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Maya, thank you -- I&#039;ve missed being here and interacting with all of you!  I have so much to share and hope to get some entries in while in Atlanta this week.  

I completely understand what you mean about feeling isolated, overwhelmed, etc. in recovery.  Especially if we don&#039;t have someone to share our thoughts, concerns, breakthroughs and fears with.  I know that this blog and readers like you are part of why I feel so joyful and committed in this stage of recovery!

With love,
Heather</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Maya, thank you &#8212; I&#8217;ve missed being here and interacting with all of you!  I have so much to share and hope to get some entries in while in Atlanta this week.  </p>
<p>I completely understand what you mean about feeling isolated, overwhelmed, etc. in recovery.  Especially if we don&#8217;t have someone to share our thoughts, concerns, breakthroughs and fears with.  I know that this blog and readers like you are part of why I feel so joyful and committed in this stage of recovery!</p>
<p>With love,<br />
Heather</p>
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